And for anyone who still questions why she’s famous—including the people who’ve accused her of having no talent—Kim has a message for them, too.

“Yeah, people used to say that,” she recalled, “and I’m like, ‘Do I need to be a f–king circus animal?'”

After all, she does star on a hit reality TV show, run an empire, attend law school and is launching a new podcast (just to name a few things on her plate). 

“I think it came from people saying, ‘What are you famous for?'” Kim continued. “And I’m like, ‘Well, we have a TV show.’ But just because we’re not singing and dancing and acting on the show doesn’t mean that the fame didn’t come from that. But then, I would write that as a hashtag, not bad for a girl with no talent, because people used to be like, ‘Well, what do you do? What’s your talent?’ And I’m like, ‘Didn’t know I needed one.'”

Still, Kim is happy to share some of her skills. “I mean, I can give you a million f–king talents,” she said in her cover story. “I can cook well, use my toes for anything. I could tell you the weirdest f–king s–t on the planet. But I think my talent is marketing and the business behind selling products and knowing what the customer wants and making it feel attainable, but also a bit unattainable at the same time. I wouldn’t say that’s a talent. I think it’s a bit of magic and business savvy. Maybe it is talent, I don’t know.”

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